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all right

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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jimmy church

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holly marie is here tonight tomorrow

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night richard dolan

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friday night i'm off saturday night i'm

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over at coast to coast a.m

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and my guest over there will be mj

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banayas and bruce r fenton but tonight

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it's holly marie

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holly of earth song healings

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she helps people get to the heart of

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what's weighing them down by using

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ancient multi-dimensional clearing

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technologies

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holly is a huge advocate of alternative

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healing alternative healing and believes

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that most prescribed medications are not

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needed in that through reprogramming the

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belief system we can gain back our

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health mental and well-being and joy

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holly has worked with the carer of peru

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michael harner's shamanic institute

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ancient crystal skulls rainbow are

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and

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the dolphin clan well we're going to

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talk about that a little bit tonight she

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has been a cmt since 1998 and has

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studied crystal healing reiki and theta

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healing tonight we're going to talk

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about all of that we're going to talk

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about you we're going to talk about the

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ego we're going to talk about the

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science of the shamanic arts

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and we're also going to talk a little

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bit about what she's going to teach

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at soul tech 2019 in loveland colorado

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and i would like to welcome back to fade

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to black but one and only

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holly marie holly good evening

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good evening jimmy how are you i am

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fantastic holly how are you that's the

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question

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i'm really good thank you i just came

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off this amazing

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retreat and i'm

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doing really well

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well where was the retreat

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it was in shasta yeah and it was a

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reunion of

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we'll say it was a tribal reunion it's

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um very

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discreet

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and i can't share about the hopi and the

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mayan but there are some other

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ancient bloodlines there that they like

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to keep a little bit more

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why why protected yeah why is it

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why is that why is it so discreet i mean

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that's why i didn't get an invite i

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understand that but

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why so discreet

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you know um

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i'm not totally sure to be honest um

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this is a group that i fell into

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many years ago when i was channeling the

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the dolphin clan the crystal skulls

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under dale walker and then i met this

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other gentleman

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that is

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in charge of this

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foundation

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he just keeps it very discreet i did

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hear

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a rumor that

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they had been stolen from um if it got

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too publicized and then i've heard other

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things that they're just really trying

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to preserve

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these traditions so even when we go into

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this conference or this gathering

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we can't even have our phones on

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airplane mode they need to be powered

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down there's no photography

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no recording no computers it's

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so not open to the public

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and how you get invited is you literally

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get a phone call

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but if you don't get an email you get a

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telephone call man you're straight out

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on the cool list

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you know i gotta be cool on some wow man

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that sounds okay um

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ah okay that's it that's it all the

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gloves are off i'm asking questions now

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how bringing it on how many how many how

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many people were there

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there was just over a hundred of us a

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hundred private invites by phone

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correct wow that's insane to me

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and uh were you at the mountain proper

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or were you liking mcleod

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i i was i was at the mountain proper

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i was

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with with a hundred other people

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correct did you go uh did you did you do

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any i'm gonna stay i'm gonna come back

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to this in a second but did you go up to

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the portal did you did you walk the

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trail did you make contact

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no um i did go up

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part way up the mountain and pray

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by myself we were instructed to do so by

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the hopi i mean we didn't have to go up

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the mountain i just chose to go up to

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the mountain but it was really cool that

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um hopi gave us some cornmeal to go pray

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with so i did do that but for the whole

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thing we were at this location and i

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mean oh my gosh it's like 10 hours a day

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and then man those mayans they put on a

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fire ceremony i had no idea i had to

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in mayan to 260.

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you can't

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do it right now

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i can't

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they're like repeat after me and i know

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i know i know we're going through these

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20 right energies of the mayan calendar

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and you have to count 13 times

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for the 20 different energies so it

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changes each time because you're adding

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a number to the energy right and then

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i'm blonde i'm just trying to like

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get whatever i can out of my mouth that

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sounds semi-similar to what they're

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saying right right

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and this is a case of you

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who you're a teacher

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but you were there as a student

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oh absolutely and uh

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okay i want to know what you learned

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um let's start

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uh okay let's start with the topic when

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you when you go there

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is there

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the list of things that are going to go

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if there is

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there is a program

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there is an itinerary that is never ever

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okay all right it's just

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they try i mean it's followed but it is

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like completely off schedule

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dancing um there was

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i'm picturing yeah

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we did do some dances i i talked to rita

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about that earlier we

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they're more like exercises they were

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similar to tai chi but they actually

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they literally

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come from lumeria

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okay now now now okay

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that would be an ancient tradition

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if you know what i mean i mean that's it

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doesn't get any more ancient than that

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and when you say like tai chi i'm also

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what i was trying to

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say there was ceremony that when i say

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dancing i'm talking about a ceremonial

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situation

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zoning in on an ancient lemarian

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tradition

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and dance

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that you were taught tell me about that

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it was

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it's okay so let let me say something

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before i forget

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soul tech last year

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i did this whole workshop on

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going into the jade healing temple

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inside of telos inside of shasta meeting

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your lemarian guides well i i did some

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research and i had a theory that i

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couldn't prove but i had a theory that

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all of our alternative medicine around

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the world because

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lemaria had 400 000 years to develop its

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civilization and then it began to break

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apart so many went to asia many went to

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america and i had a theory that

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all of these

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traditional therapies come from the

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motherland and i got that confirmed this

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weekend it is not a theory and it's not

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something that you can find online this

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is orally transmitted it's orally passed

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the first okay so we learned

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three different exercises they're all

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very simple no we learned five

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the first one that you do you use a taki

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which is a root cell syllable

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so it's it's a sound

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and it's like a it's like a tea kettle

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that's about to go and it's it's

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you do this hand in your fist and then

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you like release but you're making the

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sound and it's to release all the

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negative energy out of your body all 100

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are doing the same thing at the same

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it's in groups okay i just want a

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visualization okay so

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no con connie i am i am and you make

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and then you're bringing in no con

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connie which which means i am i am and

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then you build that up and it's really

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good for

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um connecting or blessing yourself

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before you go into

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to a different territory got it like if

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you're gonna go christmas shopping or

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whatever you'd want to practice this to

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really stabilize who you are right

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and then the last one was pulling in the

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god source in tea so the egyptians go

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with raw but

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we are dealing with a force called inti

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and that is the sun behind the sun and

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we

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either visualize holding a gold ball

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chanting in t or you could put your left

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hand on your heart and kind of put your

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hand your right hand out moving it

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um out and then back towards you

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chanting into and then that brings in

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the god presence

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is is going through the disciplines

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and is taught these ancient ceremonial

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practices like this the changes you are

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going to see

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don't more

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people practice this

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why because they don't get the phone

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you know what i mean right now this

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planet needs this

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right here right now this is you know we

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are definitely heading in the wrong

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direction and this is exactly what we

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need to do what's the problem with that

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well honestly i think we are completely

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overrun by ego right now it's it's very

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interesting though

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the hopi grandmother that comes is the

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second time i've sat with her

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and

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it

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she is so spot on because the hopi

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can prophesize right and

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we have begun we have gone so far off

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the path and a lot of it is the

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electronics

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we can't put the phone down we can't

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step away from the computer we no longer

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just pick up a book and read we have to

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have this constant dopamine

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release in our brain and is what that's

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doing and it it's creating this entire

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external

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um black hole that we just can't get

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enough of and instead of going in and

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then

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with all the drama coming out

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it is a complete projection

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of what we're not looking at inside so

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we have become completely ego driven and

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there are so many people going oh i'm

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spiritual and oh i'm awakened okay one

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you still have physical pain two you're

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sick all the time three you can't get

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along with your brother

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you know it's like you're gaining

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knowledge in fact i think a lot of these

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people probably have more historical

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knowledge and

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more reiki symbols than i than i even

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know exist but they're not putting it

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into practice so they're gaining the

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knowledge they're not

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living in wisdom

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you know you know what i find funny

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i'm just going to lay it out there

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because you and i are brother and sister

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i'm just going to lay it out there right

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now one of the biggest turn offs

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that i have let me tell you how quick i

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check out right i just check out i punch

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the ticket i cancel the check

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is when i hear somebody go yeah you know

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i'm i'm a fourth uh uh i just left the

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fourth dimensional

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door i'm a i'm a fifth dimensional being

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and i'm and i'm progressing and i'm on

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you know what man but but man

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that that barbara chick talks a lot of

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smack she gets on my nerves it's just

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like

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whoa

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you can't say that in the same sentence

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and there are so many out there that do

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just that

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that they they

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they claim to be enlightened they claim

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to be

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a priest

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you know some shamanic warrior you know

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you know what i mean all of these things

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and then they turn around and and

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participate in the uh soap opera drama

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right yeah it is it is the hungry ghost

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and it is so much easier

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it is so much easier to have your

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feelings hurt and engage in the drama

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than to pull back and sit in silence i

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know i know

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because i mean and i heard you i was

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listening in

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earlier when when you were talking about

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completely disengaging and everything

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and it's it's

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this drama is an addiction and i mean

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look what it's done to the community

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it's totally tore it apart well

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you know what i don't think it's torn

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the community apart

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but uh not yet but what's really funny

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is

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the the those out there and it's very

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singular

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that are trying to uh bring attention to

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themselves

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right that that the damage is being done

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to themselves and they think

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that you know that the the light is

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shining on them that they're they're

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they're getting attention they want

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attention they want attention they want

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clicks they want people to go to their

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youtube channel they want people to go

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listen to their podcast they want people

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to go and and and

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subscribe to and and uh

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follow and and friend and like and

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it's it's it's crazy that's what that's

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what they want

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is attention

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you worded that way more elegantly than

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i did absolutely it's not tearing the

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community apart you're right it's it's

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that need for attention yes and and it's

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so funny that you say that because when

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people i had

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i talked to two women today

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who

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basically

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put down or cursed or insulted

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another person out there

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who is doing exactly what you're talking

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about look at me come to my podcast i'm

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gonna i'm gonna slander everybody else

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out there so the attention's on me well

403
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that's awesome but it's negative

404
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attention right and i can guarantee that

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negative attention is going to give you

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gray hair man it's not worth it it's

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great you know and and and and why

408
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you know um

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you're so right when it comes to

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part of

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i don't want to ramble right now i so

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much just want to just

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just talk all over you because this is

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something what i mean is these are

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things that i've needed to talk about

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for a long time and i just you know i

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ignore it

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and and you know and that's not what the

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show was about

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but

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this is the truth

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you talk about cleansing you talk about

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you know perfecting yourself and finding

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the inner self and getting rid of those

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things

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what people need to understand is all of

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that negativity

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all of the finger pointing all of the

429
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things that you are out there doing and

430
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it could be anybody is not

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it's weighing you down

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it's not freeing you it's not making you

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a better person it's pulling you back

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it's right that is the difference

435
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and you're never going to be free

436
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unless you cut that baggage loose

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and that's how that that's what you

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teach holly is how to get rid of that

439
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and how to cleanse yourself absolutely

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and and

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out of the woods right i mean i still

442
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have all my stuff too and there are so

443
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many times that i'll jump on facebook

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and i'll see something and i'll

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type away right like ah you know

446
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and then i'm like dang it i'm i'm in ego

447
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i'm projecting i'm an ego and i'll just

448
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delete it i'll just delete it because

449
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now it's like my tails between my legs

450
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because now i caught myself an ego i

451
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mean it's it's so common it's so easy

452
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none of us are immune to it but it's

453
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it's catching it and disengaging

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this is what uh i

455
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enjoy uh

456
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about you is that we

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i'm talking about when we get together

458
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you know our group of friends

459
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when we sit and argue and we have you

460
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have participated in some of the most

461
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passionate

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strong debates

463
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that we've ever had

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but

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we debate the subject

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we don't debate the person

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and that's the difference

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you know if if you're passionate about

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it

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all day long let's talk about the

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subject let's get it out let's figure it

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out but but don't do any personal

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attacks

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you know and that's that's the big

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difference isn't it holly

476
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right and and

477
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and i try to be really cautious of that

478
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but you know they still creep up they

479
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still slip out you know what i mean i

480
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mean we're so conditioned but you're

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right and that's the same thing in a

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relationship with two people two if

483
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there's an issue and one person takes it

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personal we're never gonna move through

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that issue because it's no longer the

486
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issue it's about that

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person absolutely

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you know it's just

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i've really kind of become reclusive the

490
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past few months with everything going on

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because i don't want to get caught up in

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it nobody does

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no well no i shouldn't say that it it

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seems that

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when we come back after the break i want

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to focus on the ego

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and i want to focus on some of the steps

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that

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everybody can do to work on this and

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also to recognize what is going on

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there's that part of it but

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you're you're right

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when i say uh

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nobody does or everybody does you know

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the two extremes

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for some reason it is every it's in

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every segment of society today

508
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and it's not just in

509
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our spiritual awakening ufo conspiracy

510
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community it's not just here

511
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we are a mirror of what is going on

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everywhere else

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society has fallen down and we've got to

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figure out a way to get back up because

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we we all recognize what's going on

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but it seems like uh a big chunk of this

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planet right now is either enjoying it

518
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or they're they're being programmed

519
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right and i i right we've got to figure

520
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out a way to get it stopped

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absolutely

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break is but the programming is

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is so deeply ingrained with us

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there's a really good book out there

525
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called oh it's right here

526
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gene keys by richard redd and it goes

527
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through the 64 gene expressions and the

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book talks about how our dna is a

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holographic projection of us and we are

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actually carrying

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memories

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from before we were human

533
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and

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through

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these shadow aspects of the dna you

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really learn how

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deeply

538
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things can be ingrained with us and

539
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that's why when i work with my clients

540
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we work with unraveling that dna

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and mending it into

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a positive

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right and and when you mend it from the

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shadow into the light which is exactly

545
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what this book is doing it's mending it

546
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from the shadow into the light we can

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use

548
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do that with our words in our thoughts

549
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our holographic pattern changes but i

550
00:22:48,789 --> 00:22:44,559
think we've become so externalized

551
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that we are literally creating our dna

552
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which

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has to do with all the chemicals in our

554
00:22:59,990 --> 00:22:55,600
brain we are literally rewiring rewiring

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ourselves to be that external projector

556
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opposed to going within and finding that

557
00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:04,159
inner peace and i

558
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i think it's scary

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well if we understand what is the cause

560
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or parts of the cause i should say part

561
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of the cause

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then we won't respond and freak out in

563
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in a strange way where we can back up

564
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and go ah

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00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:20,960
it's not necessarily this person it's

566
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actually this that is over here and we

567
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can relax and take a deep breath but we

568
00:23:30,950 --> 00:23:28,480
don't have this the the knowledge we

569
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don't have the information about what is

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actually

571
00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:34,240
causing some of this angst around the

572
00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:35,679
planet

573
00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:36,799
right

574
00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:40,000
absolutely and

575
00:23:45,830 --> 00:23:43,039
bit you just said it that disengaging or

576
00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:45,840
oh why is this really happening

577
00:23:48,789 --> 00:23:47,120
we need

578
00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:48,799
is what i really took back from this

579
00:23:53,909 --> 00:23:51,440
gathering that i just went to is we're

580
00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:53,919
not contemplating enough and that is the

581
00:23:57,990 --> 00:23:55,840
same thing i talked about in soltech

582
00:24:01,350 --> 00:23:58,000
that the lemarians had the art of

583
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:01,360
contemplation and we have lost that way

584
00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:04,320
we are so conditioned to just google it

585
00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:05,039
or

586
00:24:12,789 --> 00:24:10,640
instead of contemplating the issue

587
00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:12,799
letting it play out within our own

588
00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:15,520
intrinsic wisdom that is ingrained

589
00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:17,600
within us

590
00:24:23,269 --> 00:24:21,039
we we have our own wisdom and we just

591
00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:23,279
we've lost it

592
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:26,080
we've just lost that way to the point

593
00:24:29,830 --> 00:24:28,240
where we are just spinning out of

594
00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:29,840
control

595
00:24:36,549 --> 00:24:33,600
yeah there there there was a day

596
00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:36,559
when there were no walls

597
00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:37,440
when

598
00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:40,880
uh the world was open uh our neighbors

599
00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:43,440
and friends were open to us we weren't

600
00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:45,120
shut down with the internet and

601
00:24:48,789 --> 00:24:47,200
information and

602
00:24:50,710 --> 00:24:48,799
24 7

603
00:24:52,549 --> 00:24:50,720
you know living

604
00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:52,559
it was a different way to approach

605
00:24:57,190 --> 00:24:55,600
things and our minds and our spirits

606
00:24:59,590 --> 00:24:57,200
were different

607
00:25:01,669 --> 00:24:59,600
we are now conditioned to be the exact

608
00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:01,679
opposite well we're building walls we're

609
00:25:05,830 --> 00:25:04,240
building fences we're staying inside

610
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:05,840
we're not making friends we're not

611
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:07,679
communicating we're not doing any of

612
00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:09,520
those things anymore

613
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:13,360
and the the ancients understood

614
00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:16,559
a different way of life and how to

615
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:19,279
how to use the spirit and the mind and

616
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:22,320
and how important friendships were

617
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:25,120
today is the exact opposite of that the

618
00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:29,039
value of friendship is nearly none

619
00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:31,039
none and it should be one of the most

620
00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:34,480
valuable precious things that we have

621
00:25:39,669 --> 00:25:37,840
is a friend and now

622
00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:39,679
everybody just wants to burn a friend

623
00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:42,320
they don't care it's crazy right

624
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:44,960
right and and but also the modern

625
00:25:50,789 --> 00:25:47,520
conveniences too are really messing with

626
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:50,799
us like um marlinda the the hobie

627
00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:53,039
grandmother talked about and it's her

628
00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:55,440
and i grew up very similar like i grew

629
00:26:00,149 --> 00:25:57,520
up in a cottage the first few years of

630
00:26:01,750 --> 00:26:00,159
my life with no electricity okay stop

631
00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:01,760
right there i need to take a break

632
00:26:07,510 --> 00:26:04,880
that's a perfect spot to do it so no

633
00:26:09,590 --> 00:26:07,520
electricity okay yeah no electricity

634
00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:09,600
when you grew up let's take our break

635
00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:10,880
right here this is fade to black our

636
00:26:14,710 --> 00:26:13,200
guest tonight holly marie

637
00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:14,720
we're doing it all tonight we're talking

638
00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:18,000
about you everybody we're talking about

639
00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:20,400
you listen up it's fade to black i'm

640
00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:21,679
nervous jimmy church more with holly

641
00:26:27,990 --> 00:26:25,200
after this short break stay with us

642
00:26:29,909 --> 00:26:28,000
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[Music]

650
00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:45,679
welcome back fade to black coming off

651
00:26:50,230 --> 00:26:47,919
timmy church

652
00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:50,240
our guest tonight holly marie she is

653
00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:53,279
here we're talking about you tonight

654
00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:56,240
let's get this stuff fixed

655
00:27:00,470 --> 00:26:58,799
by the way i did as i said

656
00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:00,480
i got me some

657
00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:03,279
eric stitt art for the body i bought

658
00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:04,960
some shirts and

659
00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:07,520
and uh i just retweeted it right up

660
00:27:11,590 --> 00:27:09,360
there go and get yourself some of uh

661
00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:11,600
eric's art he's just an amazing artist

662
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:14,080
and and somebody that has uh supported

663
00:27:18,789 --> 00:27:16,240
this show and has been there for us

664
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:18,799
and uh go it's the shirts are amazing

665
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:20,640
his artwork is amazing in a poster or

666
00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:22,960
two all right it's up there in twitter

667
00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:25,679
eric's did all right holly right before

668
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:27,440
the break

669
00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:30,240
you were you were raised

670
00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:32,159
in a log cabin

671
00:27:40,390 --> 00:27:36,320
no i'm kidding um no electricity though

672
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:40,400
no electricity um i i i know how that i

673
00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:42,960
i know how that can be you know and uh i

674
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:44,240
don't talk about that kind of stuff

675
00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:46,159
often but that's that's pretty tough as

676
00:27:52,310 --> 00:27:49,760
a kid what happened oh it was great

677
00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:52,320
you you enjoyed it

678
00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:55,440
yes i wouldn't have it any other way

679
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:58,799
it it was only until i was about seven

680
00:28:01,990 --> 00:27:59,600
but

681
00:28:03,430 --> 00:28:02,000
we had this generator and we lived way

682
00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:03,440
out like

683
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:05,919
on morgan territory road

684
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:08,720
out of clayton by mount diablo and we

685
00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:11,840
had to like walk up and down this long

686
00:28:14,789 --> 00:28:12,799
hill

687
00:28:17,110 --> 00:28:14,799
when it got too muddy because our there

688
00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:17,120
was no traction like there was no

689
00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:20,559
pavement and it was just mud so my mom

690
00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:22,240
would have to

691
00:28:26,789 --> 00:28:24,159
walk me down the hill we'd have to park

692
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:26,799
our cars on the bottom of the hill and

693
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:29,200
it was a long hill and then my dad used

694
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:32,480
to carry the propane up on his back

695
00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:34,559
right because we had a propane tank and

696
00:28:38,549 --> 00:28:36,159
a generator but

697
00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:38,559
it was cool and then we used to put the

698
00:28:43,750 --> 00:28:41,360
river rock in the wood burning stove

699
00:28:45,669 --> 00:28:43,760
and then wrap it in cheesecloth and put

700
00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:45,679
it in the foot of our bed to keep us

701
00:28:50,389 --> 00:28:48,080
warm at night oh man

702
00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:50,399
it was cool all right

703
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:52,559
yeah yeah okay i see the coolness in

704
00:29:01,190 --> 00:28:58,080
that i see the coolness in that i i was

705
00:29:03,190 --> 00:29:01,200
i i i see the warmness in that look when

706
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:03,200
when um uh

707
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:05,520
when when i was a kid

708
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:08,159
you know and and somebody didn't pay the

709
00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:10,480
electric bill you know our parents would

710
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:13,120
say it's like camping

711
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:15,360
there you go

712
00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:16,880
like all right

713
00:29:21,830 --> 00:29:19,360
this is cool okay let's get the candles

714
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:21,840
out i'm kidding everybody i'm kidding no

715
00:29:25,029 --> 00:29:22,720
i'm not

716
00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:25,039
but so with um

717
00:29:29,909 --> 00:29:27,200
your your parents

718
00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:29,919
are am i picturing um

719
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:30,720
uh

720
00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:33,360
a free type of

721
00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:39,190
were they off the grid before off the

722
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:45,430
no they they bought it is how it

723
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:48,720
happened is in 1976 they bought a piece

724
00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:51,360
of property and we lived in this itty

725
00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:53,360
bitty cottage until

726
00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:55,919
they built their house well

727
00:30:01,269 --> 00:29:58,399
okay okay we raised

728
00:30:04,230 --> 00:30:01,279
a cow every year for food we had pigs we

729
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:04,240
had chickens and turkeys

730
00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:08,399
and it gave you a sense of belonging

731
00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:11,840
i mean there's something so raw i mean

732
00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:13,919
no pun intended but

733
00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:16,240
being able to

734
00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:18,960
work for what you need

735
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:21,360
and it's not just a working like it

736
00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:24,240
gives you gratitude you you develop a

737
00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:26,640
relationship with it you develop a

738
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:29,279
relationship of respect with the water

739
00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:31,039
because you're running off a well and

740
00:30:35,909 --> 00:30:33,120
the well could go dry

741
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:35,919
you learn to respect the cattle that

742
00:30:41,110 --> 00:30:38,880
you're raising because you fed that cat

743
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:41,120
that cow out of a bottle when it was a

744
00:30:45,669 --> 00:30:42,640
baby

745
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:45,679
and so you gain this respect and so the

746
00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:47,760
hopi grandmother

747
00:30:52,870 --> 00:30:50,480
she grew up very much the same way so

748
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:52,880
right off the bat we had this connection

749
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:55,840
and she talks about how we've lost our

750
00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:58,799
ways due to conveniences and

751
00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:01,120
when we have everything at the push of a

752
00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:02,880
button right like i'm just gonna order

753
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:05,120
it on amazon it's like no go support

754
00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:06,640
your local business

755
00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:08,880
get in the car sit in the traffic go

756
00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:11,679
make eye contact with the clerk at the

757
00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:12,640
store

758
00:31:16,630 --> 00:31:15,200
who is trying to make a living that does

759
00:31:19,029 --> 00:31:16,640
not

760
00:31:20,630 --> 00:31:19,039
want to go on you know assistance

761
00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:20,640
because you're too lazy to get out and

762
00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:22,880
you're just shopping on amazon it's like

763
00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:26,320
be connected in your community

764
00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:28,000
and then it's what that does is when we

765
00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:30,320
isolate ourselves so much then we get on

766
00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:32,159
facebook and then somebody makes us

767
00:31:37,350 --> 00:31:34,399
angry and then we get triggered and we

768
00:31:39,669 --> 00:31:37,360
grow these major problems

769
00:31:40,789 --> 00:31:39,679
because we have nothing else to do in my

770
00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:40,799
opinion

771
00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:42,640
there's something to be said

772
00:31:47,110 --> 00:31:45,200
about that and

773
00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:47,120
i would there there was something that

774
00:31:50,389 --> 00:31:48,480
stuck with me

775
00:31:52,389 --> 00:31:50,399
uh that was said to me when i was very

776
00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:52,399
very very young

777
00:31:56,549 --> 00:31:53,600
and imagine

778
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:56,559
you know being told this

779
00:32:02,710 --> 00:32:00,480
45 years ago okay not not last week but

780
00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:02,720
45 years ago and somebody said to me you

781
00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:05,039
know what uh all of these people

782
00:32:11,590 --> 00:32:06,159
building

783
00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:11,600
think that they're closing the world out

784
00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:13,279
but they're not

785
00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:15,600
they're not they're shutting themselves

786
00:32:19,029 --> 00:32:17,360
in

787
00:32:21,669 --> 00:32:19,039
now

788
00:32:24,789 --> 00:32:21,679
that never left me holly

789
00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:24,799
it never left me it never

790
00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:26,880
think about that if everybody understood

791
00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:29,840
that concept it's not just your backyard

792
00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:31,440
it's your life

793
00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:34,960
right and and yeah it's very important

794
00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:37,519
yes and i mean come on like a fence you

795
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:39,519
know i mean the fence isn't most people

796
00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:41,519
have wooden fences they're not

797
00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:43,679
they're not going to keep somebody out

798
00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:46,000
right you really literally are shutting

799
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:48,240
yourself out which is a holographic

800
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:51,279
projection of your own isolation with

801
00:32:56,549 --> 00:32:53,440
inside it's literally killing your

802
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:56,559
spirit that's right that's right and i i

803
00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:58,799
always uh wondered about there was

804
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:01,039
always somebody on the street

805
00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:04,720
uh growing up that you never saw

806
00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:07,279
in in that they would they would leave

807
00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:08,960
to work in the morning sometimes you

808
00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:11,120
wouldn't see their car even leave they

809
00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:12,960
would sneak out to the car

810
00:33:16,389 --> 00:33:14,559
they would come home from work walk

811
00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:16,399
straight in the house

812
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:18,080
right you would never

813
00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:19,760
see them

814
00:33:24,310 --> 00:33:22,480
and they were the strange people

815
00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:24,320
right that that was the exception to the

816
00:33:30,630 --> 00:33:26,000
rule

817
00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:32,230
right

818
00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:35,600
i i don't like where things are going

819
00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:38,480
and i don't mean to sound negative but

820
00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:41,039
i'm there are some elders that are a

821
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:42,799
little bit concerned about where we're

822
00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:45,120
going especially the hopies the mayans

823
00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:47,039
as well it's

824
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:49,440
we need to really like the last time i

825
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:52,000
went to this gathering

826
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:54,960
when i walked in or when we all gathered

827
00:33:59,509 --> 00:33:56,640
they were literally

828
00:34:01,750 --> 00:33:59,519
they literally said welcome to the sixth

829
00:34:02,950 --> 00:34:01,760
extinction

830
00:34:05,269 --> 00:34:02,960
wow

831
00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:05,279
because we are literally killing our

832
00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:07,760
planet we're killing ourselves

833
00:34:11,430 --> 00:34:09,440
and

834
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:11,440
i keep thinking that things are gonna

835
00:34:15,349 --> 00:34:12,480
change

836
00:34:17,909 --> 00:34:15,359
people are gonna wake up but they're not

837
00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:17,919
they're just what's the next knowledge

838
00:34:23,109 --> 00:34:19,919
you know what what book can i read what

839
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:23,119
ufo can i spot you know it's so external

840
00:34:28,069 --> 00:34:25,839
instead of just going within you know

841
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:28,079
like i get i get these people coming to

842
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:29,040
me

843
00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:34,000
after her session i felt terrible but

844
00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:35,919
she got so mad because she heard me

845
00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:36,960
talking

846
00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:43,520
about all the like bells and whistles of

847
00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:45,679
of the work that i do and when she came

848
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:46,720
in

849
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:51,280
depression isolation

850
00:34:55,510 --> 00:34:52,800
she couldn't meet

851
00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:55,520
a partner and there was one other thing

852
00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:57,520
and so that is the literally what we

853
00:35:01,670 --> 00:35:00,320
worked on and after i was like ah so you

854
00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:01,680
know what do you think and she's like

855
00:35:04,790 --> 00:35:02,560
well

856
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:04,800
when i heard you talk it was all about

857
00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:06,320
the past lives and i go to all these

858
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:08,400
psychics and i said well

859
00:35:13,990 --> 00:35:11,520
yeah but we have to fix this

860
00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:14,000
before we go into other realms

861
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:16,880
it's like you're depressed and isolated

862
00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:19,920
like uh uh we have to fix this right

863
00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:23,200
here before you travel to some other

864
00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:24,480
life

865
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:27,920
and fix that we need to we need to start

866
00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:31,280
here how did she react

867
00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:33,839
everybody wants it easy right she saved

868
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:35,520
the session for her birthday i don't

869
00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:37,760
think she had a very good birthday but

870
00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:39,839
it's it's it's when you come in to see

871
00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:42,480
me i'm not putting up with spiritual

872
00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:44,720
deflection like you can't oh you know i

873
00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:48,160
want this this experience it's

874
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:50,720
you if you want the experience because

875
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:52,480
you're avoiding

876
00:35:55,829 --> 00:35:54,240
something within yourself that you need

877
00:35:57,910 --> 00:35:55,839
to look at then you're coming to the

878
00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:57,920
wrong person i'll give you that

879
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:00,160
experience and you will get that

880
00:36:05,589 --> 00:36:03,760
experience after you fix

881
00:36:07,589 --> 00:36:05,599
what needs to be fixed

882
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:07,599
and especially especially with death i

883
00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:09,760
do a lot of destiny retrieval which is

884
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:12,160
really advanced shamanic work and it's

885
00:36:16,470 --> 00:36:13,920
like a person

886
00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:16,480
you can't work on somebody who's not

887
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:17,440
clear

888
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:19,280
and take them into their destiny because

889
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:21,200
they're going to drag all that garbage

890
00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:24,400
with them into their destiny

891
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:25,760
it

892
00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:33,520
take a look at what do we look for first

893
00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:35,440
you know what i mean what what is it is

894
00:36:40,150 --> 00:36:37,599
there something externally

895
00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:40,160
you know actions that we are doing is it

896
00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:41,599
something mental

897
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:44,400
that is inside of us that only we know

898
00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:46,000
about that we're not telling people you

899
00:36:51,430 --> 00:36:49,119
know what is it that we look for first

900
00:36:53,030 --> 00:36:51,440
in a session

901
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:53,040
something internal that needs to be

902
00:36:57,270 --> 00:36:55,040
fixed

903
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:57,280
okay so usually

904
00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:58,720
when when

905
00:37:02,230 --> 00:37:00,480
i'm working with someone it's it's like

906
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:02,240
we'll just talk about the surface

907
00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:05,440
surface issue and i literally use the

908
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:07,920
chakra system as a timeline so i'm

909
00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:09,359
testing out their field whether it's

910
00:37:13,030 --> 00:37:11,760
in-person or remote i'm

911
00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:13,040
testing their

912
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:14,079
their

913
00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:16,640
seven-year development right

914
00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:20,640
i'm using that timeline and so wherever

915
00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:22,400
the chakra is out

916
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:25,359
i'll ask them what happened in that time

917
00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:26,320
frame

918
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:29,440
and then we go from there and sometimes

919
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:30,640
it

920
00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:38,160
cause like i just had this woman come in

921
00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:39,680
and i know she would never listen to the

922
00:37:44,069 --> 00:37:42,240
radio the show and i'm not gonna say her

923
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:44,079
name or anything but i had a woman come

924
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:46,079
in who was gonna start a new job and she

925
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:48,640
had anxiety and

926
00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:51,280
i don't know what happened with

927
00:37:55,589 --> 00:37:53,440
with the work lately but it has just

928
00:37:58,150 --> 00:37:55,599
quantum leaped like

929
00:38:00,630 --> 00:37:58,160
people's issues are just coming up super

930
00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:00,640
like lightning speed it's crazy i don't

931
00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:02,240
even think we're in session i don't

932
00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:04,960
think i even had her and this was remote

933
00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:07,599
i don't even think i had her in her zone

934
00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:09,280
for more than four minutes i'm like okay

935
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:11,119
it's your first chakra when's the first

936
00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:13,200
time you felt anxiety when i was

937
00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:16,160
molested just blurted out she'd never

938
00:38:19,349 --> 00:38:18,320
dealt with it never talked about it

939
00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:19,359
nothing

940
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:20,400
and then

941
00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:22,240
it's like we took care of it we brought

942
00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:24,320
the inner child back we sealed in that

943
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:26,960
soul piece and she was good to go

944
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:28,079
and

945
00:38:35,109 --> 00:38:30,960
so whatever that past trauma is that we

946
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:35,119
cover up with programs or

947
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:37,760
alcohol or whatever we're covering up

948
00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:41,200
that program is what's lurking in every

949
00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:44,320
aspect of our life so for her going into

950
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:47,119
that job made her feel unsafe which was

951
00:38:51,589 --> 00:38:48,800
exactly

952
00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:51,599
the seed of that molestation she was

953
00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:54,400
unsafe and so we really it's so

954
00:39:00,150 --> 00:38:57,040
important to do the regression work to

955
00:39:01,750 --> 00:39:00,160
get people back and i believe and a lot

956
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:01,760
of these

957
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:05,440
tribal elders also believe that once we

958
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:08,000
fix ourself we are literally

959
00:39:14,950 --> 00:39:11,440
shifting the holograph around us

960
00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:14,960
we are literally shifting out the trauma

961
00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:16,880
and it does it affects the collective

962
00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:20,400
consciousness we are we're all one

963
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:22,640
we're just these tiny little aspects

964
00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:25,200
right and we just we want to pop a pill

965
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:27,520
or we want to do some

966
00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:30,000
you know like go on a raw foods diet

967
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:32,480
like we want to do all this pretty

968
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:35,440
clean stuff but we're not

969
00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:38,880
diving in to the actual trauma

970
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:42,480
that's keeping us from actually healing

971
00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:45,359
ourselves and the collective

972
00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:48,400
is anybody out there not traumatized

973
00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:52,160
you know what i mean is i i have i have

974
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:53,599
friends

975
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:56,800
that i'm naturally uh

976
00:40:02,870 --> 00:40:00,480
just i i enjoy their presence right and

977
00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:02,880
and they are just magnetic and funny and

978
00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:05,359
cool and and everything i have friends

979
00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:08,960
like that but they aren't on this path

980
00:40:15,030 --> 00:40:11,760
right is it because that they just

981
00:40:17,349 --> 00:40:15,040
happen to have a great past life

982
00:40:19,349 --> 00:40:17,359
and a great current life and a great

983
00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:19,359
childhood that they they don't have

984
00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:21,680
anything that they're dealing with or

985
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:23,599
does everybody have something that

986
00:40:29,589 --> 00:40:26,400
they're that they need to deal with

987
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:32,310
and and from doing this work for over 10

988
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:36,240
years and from always being a student

989
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:39,040
according to the tibetan monks

990
00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:41,200
there's no happiness if there's no

991
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:42,400
suffering

992
00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:46,240
we lit okay perfect perfect okay all the

993
00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:49,520
kids these days they cut themselves

994
00:40:51,910 --> 00:40:50,640
right

995
00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:51,920
you know what i'm talking about they cut

996
00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:53,440
themselves they got all the cut marks

997
00:40:59,270 --> 00:40:55,280
their cutters all up their legs and

998
00:41:01,589 --> 00:40:59,280
their arms i have seen and heard yes i

999
00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:01,599
don't know of all kids i mean my kids

1000
00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:04,000
aren't doing it they better not be

1001
00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:07,280
um well not all kids okay right

1002
00:41:13,829 --> 00:41:10,400
we have coddled our kids to a point

1003
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:13,839
where we have shielded them from feeling

1004
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:17,920
any pain pain is a normal thing to feel

1005
00:41:22,069 --> 00:41:19,680
like if i didn't go through certain

1006
00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:22,079
points of pain or trauma in my life i

1007
00:41:27,430 --> 00:41:24,720
wouldn't be here i'm sure there are

1008
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:27,440
people that had such a good

1009
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:29,440
life their past life that they're just

1010
00:41:33,109 --> 00:41:30,880
coming here

1011
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:33,119
riding the wave on roses but for the

1012
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:35,280
majority of people one they're either

1013
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:38,240
not looking at it and then it it

1014
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:40,400
manifests into physical pain

1015
00:41:44,309 --> 00:41:42,480
chronic pain a lot of people that come

1016
00:41:47,190 --> 00:41:44,319
to me with heart disease because it's

1017
00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:47,200
hereditary it's like okay let's go back

1018
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:49,760
and meet the ancestors because it's it's

1019
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:54,640
not heart disease it's a broken heart

1020
00:41:59,829 --> 00:41:56,400
right like i just worked on somebody and

1021
00:42:01,589 --> 00:41:59,839
it's like somewhere back in the line

1022
00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:01,599
they had so much poverty that they had

1023
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:03,839
to sell their sell their kids that

1024
00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:12,390
right because the ancestors just show up

1025
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:14,560
man like they're full of information

1026
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:16,240
then he's like i hear him laughing right

1027
00:42:22,069 --> 00:42:19,359
it's like yeah you liberated them you we

1028
00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:22,079
are here to help heal our ancestors and

1029
00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:25,119
we are also here we are borrowing the

1030
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:27,599
earth from our children so it's really

1031
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:30,720
important that we instead of just

1032
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:32,960
gaining all this knowledge we put the

1033
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:34,960
knowledge into wisdom by actually

1034
00:42:40,309 --> 00:42:37,280
cleaning up our lives a little bit

1035
00:42:43,349 --> 00:42:40,319
how do we okay let's let's stay on this

1036
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:43,359
if if that is if that is the case and i

1037
00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:44,880
like the way that the monks put it that

1038
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:47,040
there's no happiness without you know

1039
00:42:51,270 --> 00:42:48,880
there's no positive without a negative

1040
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:51,280
it's the yin yang it's the universe it's

1041
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:54,480
the way that it is and you can't change

1042
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:55,440
nature

1043
00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:57,839
right so if you're gonna deal with it at

1044
00:43:02,550 --> 00:42:59,119
that level

1045
00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:02,560
if everybody has something that they are

1046
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:03,760
dealing with

1047
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:06,240
when they come to you

1048
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:08,160
how was it found i know that you

1049
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:09,839
mentioned regression

1050
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:11,040
but

1051
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:12,400
does

1052
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:14,079
is this something that

1053
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:16,319
somebody may be conscious of or do do

1054
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:18,240
they have to go and find it in their

1055
00:43:26,309 --> 00:43:23,910
most people are conscious that

1056
00:43:30,309 --> 00:43:26,319
something's going on like something's

1057
00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:30,319
not right right right but then the seed

1058
00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:33,119
is in the subconscious and they've

1059
00:43:37,829 --> 00:43:35,599
covered it up but there are other people

1060
00:43:41,589 --> 00:43:37,839
who just come in and they're like hey

1061
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:41,599
you know this happened to me and

1062
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:43,520
i mean like i just literally had a woman

1063
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:46,240
come in who um

1064
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:48,400
came from a very abusive family and it's

1065
00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:51,440
like she was very cognizant of it right

1066
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:53,359
but we still

1067
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:56,720
dive a little bit deeper into the

1068
00:44:02,550 --> 00:43:59,760
subconscious and find that very first

1069
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:02,560
recollection of when you suffered that

1070
00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:03,599
abuse

1071
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:05,760
when you suffered that molestation like

1072
00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:09,359
when you suffered and then that's that's

1073
00:44:14,069 --> 00:44:12,400
your ticket right there because you

1074
00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:14,079
okay look it you went through all this

1075
00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:16,240
abuse you went through all this trauma

1076
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:18,400
you were molested whatever it was and

1077
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:20,319
you're here

1078
00:44:25,349 --> 00:44:22,480
you are here

1079
00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:25,359
now and so you have to flip like the

1080
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:28,079
maya maya means illusion you have to

1081
00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:30,560
flip that trauma and then they're like

1082
00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:33,440
oh right like now they see the gift in

1083
00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:36,000
it so they can liberate themselves from

1084
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:37,680
suffering

1085
00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:39,520
and then things get really really good

1086
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:41,200
because they're no longer suffering

1087
00:44:45,670 --> 00:44:42,960
anymore that's when the growth takes

1088
00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:45,680
place like i wouldn't be the person i am

1089
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:49,040
today if i wasn't super sick as a child

1090
00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:51,920
like oh my gosh so sick all the time so

1091
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:54,240
sick and i mean i had chronic

1092
00:44:58,710 --> 00:44:56,880
tonsillitis all the time my tonsils are

1093
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:58,720
so pitted out because i was sick all the

1094
00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:00,800
time and i couldn't eat because my

1095
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:02,880
stomach would cramp right and then i was

1096
00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:05,440
like bullied and i was suicidal and blah

1097
00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:08,000
blah blah blah i wouldn't be the person

1098
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:10,160
i am today if i didn't go through that

1099
00:45:13,910 --> 00:45:11,760
suffering

1100
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:13,920
and i wouldn't right even from my

1101
00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:17,280
upbringing right priming the well

1102
00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:19,520
um turning the water off when you're not

1103
00:45:23,589 --> 00:45:21,440
using it right when you're like saving

1104
00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:23,599
water i have a really good relationship

1105
00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:25,359
with water

1106
00:45:31,829 --> 00:45:29,119
i have respect for it i i can see

1107
00:45:33,829 --> 00:45:31,839
right like when the mountains the snow

1108
00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:33,839
starts to melt

1109
00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:36,319
it's like i have this internal clock

1110
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:38,960
that it's like okay now we

1111
00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:40,079
start to

1112
00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:42,800
um even cut back more

1113
00:45:45,829 --> 00:45:45,119
because nature's telling me it's showing

1114
00:45:48,790 --> 00:45:45,839
me

1115
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:48,800
where our water is

1116
00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:50,480
it's

1117
00:45:55,589 --> 00:45:52,480
why are we so acclimated to that kind of

1118
00:45:58,870 --> 00:45:55,599
stuff like you know what your car you're

1119
00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:58,880
down to a quarter of a tank of gas and

1120
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:01,119
you don't have much money in your pocket

1121
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:04,079
so you're not putting your foot

1122
00:46:07,349 --> 00:46:05,440
in the get your right you're trying to

1123
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:07,359
save the gas but

1124
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:09,040
you fill up your car full of gas and

1125
00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:10,720
it's payday and you're driving around

1126
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:12,319
town

1127
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:14,640
right and you're wasting gas

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it's it's that way with food you know

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you

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it

1131
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we do that all the way across the board

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is it because we live in a life of

1133
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convenience these days that's it's it's

1134
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:46,560
it's how did we get here ollie

1135
00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:49,920
i believe so man i i believe so it's

1136
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:53,040
it's just everything is handed to us

1137
00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:55,520
and and i've really had to take a step

1138
00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:57,280
back with with my child because i was

1139
00:47:01,430 --> 00:46:59,200
like oh my god i'm coddling my child

1140
00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:01,440
then i work with all these like people

1141
00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:03,920
who had all these horrible like

1142
00:47:07,589 --> 00:47:05,839
childhood traumas so then i'm like more

1143
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:07,599
protective of my child and i had to

1144
00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:08,800
really

1145
00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:11,359
step back and

1146
00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:14,480
and have a really hard look within

1147
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:17,359
and realize that my fear

1148
00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:20,319
is weakening my child

1149
00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:21,520
why

1150
00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:24,000
we got to hit a break right here um and

1151
00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:25,440
when we come back we'll continue the

1152
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:26,720
conversation

1153
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:30,800
but we definitely saw the turn

1154
00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:34,079
in the 1980s right because still in the

1155
00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:36,079
1970s

1156
00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:38,240
uh it was a different world out there

1157
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:41,040
when it came to raising kids

1158
00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:43,920
and then we took a turn and now today

1159
00:47:48,309 --> 00:47:46,720
everybody gets a trophy right there are

1160
00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:48,319
no losers

1161
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:51,680
and look where we are now

1162
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:52,880
right

1163
00:47:58,069 --> 00:47:55,440
there's definitely been a disintegration

1164
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:58,079
not only in the family unit but all of

1165
00:48:01,829 --> 00:47:59,359
these kids

1166
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:01,839
grow up to be adults and now their

1167
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:04,079
expectations are different about life

1168
00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:06,800
and how to respect others right

1169
00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:08,960
exactly

1170
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:11,359
you're raising you've got you've got

1171
00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:14,400
your son who is absolutely amazing

1172
00:48:19,750 --> 00:48:16,480
um but uh

1173
00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:19,760
and i i i understand why you would want

1174
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:22,480
to cuddle him because he's so cool he's

1175
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:23,760
a cool kid

1176
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:27,119
but you are speaking uh not only as a as

1177
00:48:31,990 --> 00:48:30,800
a healer but as a parent too that has

1178
00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:32,000
that has

1179
00:48:36,630 --> 00:48:34,720
taken the necessary steps to fight the

1180
00:48:38,069 --> 00:48:36,640
system and you've done it with your son

1181
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:38,079
right

1182
00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:39,920
oh

1183
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:41,680
on that note oregon just passed

1184
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:44,400
mandatory vaccines yes i saw that last

1185
00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:46,559
week let's take a break right here

1186
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:49,200
i couldn't wait holly holly holly you

1187
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:53,280
know i couldn't wait to get to this

1188
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:54,160
you know

1189
00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:55,520
we'll do that when we come back our

1190
00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:57,280
guest tonight holly marie i'm your host

1191
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:58,640
jimmy church

1192
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:00,400
tonight it's all about you we'll be

1193
00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:03,119
right back

1194
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:05,680
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